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view something hidden in a layer

Jun 22, 2011, 12:02
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view something hidden in a layer
Hi, hoping someone can help..

I am trying to decipher an image (it's for an online game and I refuse to cheat for the answer!!)

I have a .psd image, that I have opened into layers - see the attached screenshot... It makes far more sense than the long-winded paragraph I just deleted!! All other layers were easy to deal with I just had to click on the eye to make them visible, but the one with the dotted box around it - I can't work out what to do..

So for this troublesome layer, I need to work out how to 'see' whatever is hiding in there. I have played around with lots of things, but the best I get is a white box if I remove the alpha channel.

I don't want to know what the other letters are, just how to find them (I am interested in learning how to do things, not just about the game, so I'm happy for explanations) =)

The original image is here, it will prompt to open or save:

http://deathball.net/notpron/nomeaning/36tbh.psd

Thank you in advance =)


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Jun 22, 2011, 14:25
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RE: view something hidden in a layer
(Jun 22, 2011 12:02)panda87 Wrote:  Hi, hoping someone can help..

I am trying to decipher an image (it's for an online game and I refuse to cheat for the answer!!)

I have a .psd image, that I have opened into layers - see the attached screenshot... It makes far more sense than the long-winded paragraph I just deleted!! All other layers were easy to deal with I just had to click on the eye to make them visible, but the one with the dotted box around it - I can't work out what to do..

So for this troublesome layer, I need to work out how to 'see' whatever is hiding in there. I have played around with lots of things, but the best I get is a white box if I remove the alpha channel.

I don't want to know what the other letters are, just how to find them (I am interested in learning how to do things, not just about the game, so I'm happy for explanations) =)

The original image is here, it will prompt to open or save:

http://deathball.net/notpron/nomeaning/36tbh.psd

Thank you in advance =)
It also prompts for password Sad

Now, what makes you think there is really something there?Use the "Histogram" dialog on each channel, if there is something you will have intermediate values, possibly very small (for instance a transparency=1) but you'll be able to see it (pixel count will change between values 0 and 1). If so the Threshold tool is your friend. if PS supports Paths and saved Channels like Gimp you can check if there are paths left unstroked or Saved channels.

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Jun 22, 2011, 23:09 (This post was last modified: Jun 22, 2011 23:09 by panda87.)
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RE: view something hidden in a layer
Eeek, sorry, I thought it might -- the u/n is mickey and p/word is mouse..

Basically, its the nature of the game for there to be something hidden Tongue To get to the next level I need to place a word in the url and there are clues within the level ie source code etc (its a rather fun and challenging game) - so I have some letters, and they don't spell anything, so there must be missing letters Tongue

I did the histogram thing for R, G, B, then RGB and alpha - I think there is something there for alpha at the very left in the black range (attached) -- this is where I'm a noob, I don't quite understand the terms you used.. I removed the alpha channel (I don't know why, just thought I'd try it), and now with threshold, I can see 4 little raised bits to the far right of the scale (attached).. But if I apply threshold, nothing is revealed. I am guessing these 'spikes' mean something (or I am hoping)..

Again, I love to know what I am doing and why, not just do it and make a lucky guess as to what works..

Thanks again so much =)


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Jun 22, 2011, 23:48
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RE: view something hidden in a layer
There is indeed something (even more visible using the Histogram in log mode ).

So to change the alpha:
- add a Layer mask to the layer, and specify transfer "alpha channel". Then you can work on the layer mask with the usual tools, and this changes the transparency.
- in the screenshot below, I used the "level" tools to extend the transparencies so that things that range from almost completely transparent to fairly transparent become less transparent.
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