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Unable to overwrite images

Sep 16, 2012, 02:50
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Unable to overwrite images
Ever since transferring all my files to a new computer, I have been unable to permanently overwrite any images opened in Gimp 2.2 nor 2.6. Worse, any image or even folder created through Gimp does not show up in the Windows directory folder. (but, strangely does if viewed through Gimp itself...)

The images are still changed from the last time were I last left off, but on rare occasions, usually after altering Windows User Controls, the images revert to the appearance of when they were uploaded to the computer(around 12/17/11 according to the files). Luckily, they revert back to my last known save (Yesterday) if a System Restore is initiated.

If it helps, the images in question are .GIF images and they were imported from Windows Xp to 7.(whom I highly suspect is the problem) The Gimp version I use is 2.2.
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Sep 16, 2012, 08:59 (This post was last modified: Sep 16, 2012 08:59 by ofnuts.)
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RE: Unable to overwrite images
What is the complete path to the images? They look like they are saved somewhere in a system directory...

And, Gimp 2.2? Seriously?

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Sep 16, 2012, 15:10
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RE: Unable to overwrite images
Hey, shut up! I've been using it for 6 years!Angry

Anyway, the path is C:/Program Files/GIMP 2.0/bin/
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Sep 16, 2012, 17:03
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RE: Unable to overwrite images
(Sep 16, 2012 15:10)MasterZebulin Wrote:  Hey, shut up! I've been using it for 6 years!Angry
That's no excuse... you are missing on plenty of things... After all you left 95/98/XP for Win7, right?

(Sep 16, 2012 15:10)MasterZebulin Wrote:  Anyway, the path is C:/Program Files/GIMP 2.0/bin/
You should never save anything there. It worked in WinXP and before because Windows was pretty lax and everybody ran with admin priviledges anyway, but with Vista and Seven they have seen the light and tightened a few bolts, so it is much more difficult to make modifications in system directories (and this includes saving images there). Normally you should be using by default something like "C:\users\{your_id}\My Documents\My pictures" (or whatever cute name they use in W7).

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Sep 16, 2012, 18:45
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RE: Unable to overwrite images
(Sep 16, 2012 17:03)ofnuts Wrote:  
(Sep 16, 2012 15:10)MasterZebulin Wrote:  Hey, shut up! I've been using it for 6 years!Angry
That's no excuse... you are missing on plenty of things... After all you left 95/98/XP for Win7, right?
Yeah, but not by choice...

(Sep 16, 2012 15:10)MasterZebulin Wrote:  Anyway, the path is C:/Program Files/GIMP 2.0/bin/
You should never save anything there. It worked in WinXP and before because Windows was pretty lax and everybody ran with admin priviledges anyway, but with Vista and Seven they have seen the light and tightened a few bolts, so it is much more difficult to make modifications in system directories (and this includes saving images there). Normally you should be using by default something like "C:\users\{your_id}\My Documents\My pictures" (or whatever cute name they use in W7).
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You've gotta be kidding me! I can't save to the .bin folder anymore!? What a load of crap!
Is there anyway to change that?

Ooooh, how I HATE Windows 7.
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Sep 16, 2012, 19:20
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RE: Unable to overwrite images
You can shoot yourself in the foot if that pleases you... Microsoft will even provide the pistol and the bullets. But:

1) directories have been invented for a purpose. I assume you don't store your food in the same drawer as your underwear. Anything you "save" under c:\program files" can be wiped out by a program re-installation. There are directories for programs, and directories for your data. One of the benefits of the separation is that you can replace the program without losing the data, or backup the data without uselessly backing up the program, and copy your files around without having to wonder what is yours and what is theirs.

2) many malwares you get from the internet are run with your own user privileges. If you usually run with everything allowed, these naughties are allowed everything and can easily take control of your computer. If you don't, they can damage your files, but they can't do anything to the computer. So it is a lot safer to have only regular user privileges for day-to-day use, and use the admin privileges only when installing new stuff or changing configuration on purpose.

I assume that you save in "C:/Program Files/GIMP 2.0/bin/" because that's the default directory when you open/save files. But this is easily changed.

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Sep 16, 2012, 22:00
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RE: Unable to overwrite images
(Sep 16, 2012 19:20)ofnuts Wrote:  You can shoot yourself in the foot if that pleases you... Microsoft will even provide the pistol and the bullets. But:

1) directories have been invented for a purpose. I assume you don't store your food in the same drawer as your underwear. Anything you "save" under c:\program files" can be wiped out by a program re-installation. There are directories for programs, and directories for your data. One of the benefits of the separation is that you can replace the program without losing the data, or backup the data without uselessly backing up the program, and copy your files around without having to wonder what is yours and what is theirs.

2) many malwares you get from the internet are run with your own user privileges. If you usually run with everything allowed, these naughties are allowed everything and can easily take control of your computer. If you don't, they can damage your files, but they can't do anything to the computer. So it is a lot safer to have only regular user privileges for day-to-day use, and use the admin privileges only when installing new stuff or changing configuration on purpose.

I assume that you save in "C:/Program Files/GIMP 2.0/bin/" because that's the default directory when you open/save files. But this is easily changed.

1) If that is true, then why the hell does it default to there!?

2) So your saying that annoying little administrative popup is a GOOD thing? If so, then why am I so hell-bent on getting rid of it?

Yeah, I changed the directory to something else. Seems to fix the issue for now. Annoying as hell to re-save everything into that folder, though. Oh, well.

Also, could you keep this topic unlocked? People might have similar problems but the solution might be different.
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Sep 16, 2012, 23:00
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RE: Unable to overwrite images
(Sep 16, 2012 22:00)MasterZebulin Wrote:  1) If that is true, then why the hell does it default to there!?
Because Gimp is a well-educated program and use the "working directory" as the default directory to load/save files. And by default, in Windows, the "default directory" for a program is the directory where the .EXE is. But this can be changed in the shortcut properties. Later Gimp installers likely did it better than the 2.2 one because from memory the 2.6 version saves in "My documents". But you can move it elsewhere, and you can even have different shortcuts for different directories.

(Sep 16, 2012 22:00)MasterZebulin Wrote:  2) So your saying that annoying little administrative popup is a GOOD thing? If so, then why am I so hell-bent on getting rid of it?
These warnings are exactly as annoying as the "out of gas" light on a car dashboard. They tell you about things you should have avoided with a bit of planning in the first place.

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