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Feb 9, 2012, 04:14
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I want to make a decal. 2.5" inch diameter round. I want wrapped text on the bottom and i want a silhouette as the picture. I figured out text to path but maybe there is better way. Silhouette i believ find bright picture and adjust threshold. How do i add all pieces together.
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Feb 9, 2012, 07:34
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RE: total noob, am i nuts
Text-to-path is the way but you'll have to work out the quirks (I have fixes hints for mots things in that area).

For a clean silhouette, import a picture, and using it as a guide, create a path around it with the path editor (Path). Then obtain a selection from that path and fill it.

Btw, if Gimp can do it, this look more a job for InkScape.

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Feb 9, 2012, 14:48
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When you do a path around an image do you zoom way in so you can select each point exactly? I mean for what i need i think it would be like a few hundred path points. Is that right? I think i figured the text to path quirks as i make a path then do text, then text to path and just kind of undo and enlarge and minimize font till it fits and looks pretty centered. Final question, i have an image but after i path around part i want how do i take that piece out, put in my decal shape and just enlarge the selected path without enlarging the entire decal.
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Feb 9, 2012, 15:41
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Yes, I often zoom. However there is no need to overdo the accuracy. Sometimes it's even better to not be too accurate, and find what the original image was (for instane to restore pointy bits). A hundred points seem to be a lot. The path for your average letter is under 20 points. The less points, the smoother it looks.

You can enlarge the path by using the Scale tool (Scale) in "Path" mode (rightmost icon in t top row of Tool options)

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Feb 9, 2012, 16:21
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I will try again some more. When I used the scale I guess I was using the scale the whole image, not just scale the path selection. Is there a way to like select an item with like a circle selection, or do you always need the path tool
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Feb 9, 2012, 16:27
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Depends what you want to scale (and here I have a hard time understanding why/what you want to scale afterwards, so maybe if you posted your image(s) I would understand a bit better what you are trying to do.

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Feb 9, 2012, 17:14
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So is the border and text to path, best I could do so far.

I want to place a silhouette image in the middle. When i opened the file to make into a silhouette it was too small, but I think I got it now. I need to learn the layer thing as I believe it will help quite a bit.


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Feb 9, 2012, 17:29
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The problem I am running into now is the silhouette is a person during an action scene, and its impossible to black them out into a silhouette because I need to just have the person, not the rest of the scene, so I have to get right on the outline of their shape.
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Feb 9, 2012, 19:33
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This is the image I need to sihouette. I want the guy on the rock, the rod bending, and even the lure at the end of the line (but move it closer to his head so it will fit in my decal. I want that image to go inside the circle decal above the lettering. Anyone with step by step instructions that can help me gets a free decal, hopefully you fish otherwise it won't make much sense.


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Feb 9, 2012, 21:39
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RE: total noob, am i nuts
OK. So first, let's talk about the noob mistakes that you have to fix before investing more work Smile

1) the whole pic is much too small. At 300DPI printing, it will be 2.5". Better take some margin. I've blown it 4x (3000x3000), so you can get decent letter-size prints if needed. Pixels are cheap Smile

2) You have rendered everything on the same layer, with a background. This is a capital sin, too. Merging things together is easy. Separating them is hard. So do not merge early, and in most cases, do not merge at all. Keep everything on separate transparent layers.

This said:

1) Use file/open as layers to import the angler picture. It's about the right size so I assule you scaled it before hand. It could also have been scaled on the spot. Move it around so that the angler will be where you want the silhouette to be in the final image.
[attachment=940]

2) use the path tool to silhouette the angler. Don't forget the auxiliary strokes between the legs and the arms (and the bag shoulder strap, if you want to be that accurate). note that the rod has to be done with as few points as possible to keep a natural shape. I did q quick job on the fisher, but I don't think it requires many more points. But the tangents of the existing points can be adjusted for a better fit. The lure alone won't be identifiable. But you can draw a line from the tip of the rod to the lure in a different path (see next step)
[attachment=941]

3) Once done with the path, add a transparent layer, obtain a selection from the path, and bucket fill the selection. On an additional layer, merely "stroke" the line between rode and lure (hence the need for the different path above). Hide the original image.
[attachment=942]

The result (click on thumbnail below, there is no background, so in the thumbnail it's black on black):
[attachment=943]

The XCF attached is scaled down (8MB otherwise) but it will give you an idea.

Since you are doing quite well for a noob I kept the explanation short hoping you will find out the easy stuff by yourself. But if I wasn't clear enough, don't hesitate to ask for more detail.

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