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problem with drop shadow

Oct 2, 2014, 20:55 (This post was last modified: Oct 2, 2014 21:01 by Kharl.)
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RE: problem with drop shadow
(Oct 2, 2014 17:09)rich2005 Wrote:  
Quote:..you did it twice path or you duplicate them, if you duplicate them how did you moved the second so its not over the first one?..

I made a path so that I could get a selection when I wanted it. Not needed because both the polygon and drop shadow are in the same place. Then I moved the layer a little to give the drop shadow effect. Watch the video again.


In the first three second of the second video THERE ARE TWO draw of an incomplete pentagon.

i am talkign about those two exact paths, do youdid it twice or duplicate/copy paste whatever....
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Oct 2, 2014, 21:05 (This post was last modified: Oct 3, 2014 04:47 by Kharl.)
Post: #32
RE: problem with drop shadow
(Oct 2, 2014 17:09)rich2005 Wrote:  
Quote:..about your second video "Gimp polygon shadow...."
it starteed with the polygons already done, i know it is about shadow... but would be nice to show how you did it.

I do not know how to explain to you any better, it is as ofnuts described earlier.

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1. You have a transparent layer on top with the polygon
2. Under that you have a duplicate layer but in black
3. That second layer is blurred for a shadow effect.
4. That second layer is moved a little to give a shadow effect for the top layer.

You will just have to watch the video again, it is there.

Quote: line with edges that forma polygon in other words, edges, how you do that, i know how to do it (paint along the path... but)..the dialog box does not even let me choose color it forces you to choose the color BEFORE to hit "paint along the path" it should have a color option within the dialog box..

You get what is there, no good complaining about it here, so no whining.

Quote:..you did it twice path or you duplicate them, if you duplicate them how did you moved the second so its not over the first one?..

I made a path so that I could get a selection when I wanted it. Not needed because both the polygon and drop shadow are in the same place. Then I moved the layer a little to give the drop shadow effect. Watch the video again.

i am sorry but it is difficult for the fish to see the water where he always has been...

there is a step you for sure do automatically/unconciously because you are used to... that step is for sure what i am failing at...
i did the experiment, i called three of the guys around here i sit them in front of the computer and asked him to extrictly follow the video, the video in one screen and the GIMP in another.. and they were unable to do it.

but ill kepp trying
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Oct 2, 2014, 21:24
Post: #33
RE: problem with drop shadow
BTW

Layer > Transparency > Color to alfa
Does NOT work
it certainly make transparent the selected color, in my case; white, it dissapear the white parts of the image, thats ok, but the rest of the image turn transparent
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Oct 2, 2014, 22:27
Post: #34
RE: problem with drop shadow
ill kep trying, the most important part is what you mentioned here
(Oct 2, 2014 07:26)rich2005 Wrote:  First thing, use whatever you are comfortable with.

For me learning Gimp has always been playing around and trying to see what works plus bits and pieces picked up here and there. Still learning. Always learning. I do understand that this is not the way you work.

i dont know how to draw polygons, i use paint, i dont know how to do shadows, i drop down shadow of any object and i cut the part i need...

check the result:

left two days of work more to finish

Some of the pages (it is for a flight school)
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And the contact us page
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Oct 3, 2014, 07:56 (This post was last modified: Oct 3, 2014 07:57 by rich2005.)
Post: #35
RE: problem with drop shadow
Quote:Layer > Transparency > Color to alfa Does NOT work


What you mean is it does not work for you. There is color-to-alpha (color menu) and alpha-to-selection (Layer -> transparency) Different operations.

This is what ofnuts posted, see if you connect that to the layer diagram I posted.

Quote:- Layer>Transparency>Alpha to selection (makes a selection from the outline of your object)
- Add layer
- Bucket fill selection with black (or some other dark color)
- Gaussian blur on shadow
- Move shadow layer under object layer
- Shift the shadow layer to taste

Back to the very beginning. You want to make a shape. You want a drop shadow under that shape.

Now at post #45 you say
Quote:i dont know how to draw polygons, i use paint, i dont know how to do shadows...

Gone round in a circle, I have been here before, not going there again.
What you need is a tutor standing behind you, not someone half-way-round-the-world.
Are there any local computer groups you can contact?

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Oct 3, 2014, 15:37
Post: #36
RE: problem with drop shadow
Yes but you didn’t read the reason why i didn’t got that (i dont blame you, i write a lot lol)
When he (Ofnuts) taugh me how to manually add a shadow (post 24).

After experiencing another gimp error (lost part of the work because I wanted to try the ofnuts instructions in a new gimp windows and gimp closed when I clicked the icon erasing all unsaved work (it did it twice to discard my mistake and in another computers to discard my computer problems)

And in the post 26 i said i was ok with the first step but with the second i asked how i do it because i didnt found the option of adding a new layer, i didn’t saw any menu item named
"new layer" (now I know what it is, I learned here http://www.youthedesigner.com/graphic-de...ith-gimp/)


and just after that i also mentioned "what is bucked fill?" if that was an option, an action, a movement...

you see what i mention?

Maybe I fail form first time, that I should have told you guys to EXPLAIN ME LIKE IF I WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER, I know your would slap your hand in your forehead and would send me to sleep with the fishes, if you explain something to your grandmother, you have to expliain it step by step AND for sure will have to repeat the same steps!
With me, steps by steps, but once you explain t ti right to me, dot have to touch that again!

Therefore I don’t need a 2000 pages tutorial.
If I would have been taugh this way:
“To create a layer, click the icon under your Layers Window with a plus sign”

See how simply and efficient is?

Maybe ofnuts supposed I knew how to create a new layer.. I don’t know why he tought that since I told I am a completely new at this, the time saved by not mentioning.. was waisted in further explanations that could have been avoid if
“To create a layer, click the icon under your Layers Window with a plus sign”
would have been told.

When I get little extra time I will try again the manual shadow because now I am building shiny buttons (that btw looks soo cool)

But for now I want to share with you something I was taught a year ago in a training

The professionals, once they master or become too specialized in what they do, lose the ability / skill of reviewing the very basic of their knowledge, which helps them to streamline the resolution of coming problems and that its also the same ability that make them able to explain sophisticated things to a newbie without recoilless.
Those are the basic and logical steps that everybody else would obviate because it assumes that it it is already known and that’s when the problem start to build up.

In aviation, that can be ignored because it leads to DEATH, (ALWAYS)
Do you know that you CANT be an airliner pilot without being CFI (Certified flight instructor)?
One of its purposes of this is to help to keep for the whole life of the pilot the ability of explaining how to land a 747 to a kid, when you have that vision, that ability, you will NEVER found a unsolvable probelm in your following learnign because you have the ability to review the very basic of ANYTHING that many ones (99% of other non aviation related profesionals) obviate so much that just take it for granted AND dont even know they have forgotten or missing something.

Again guys!
I appreciate a lot your effort!
I continue reading and trying
Until know I haven been stuck in gimp (with thing I have not get along with I have found an alternative (for example, with the polygons.. while I master it with gimp.. I just import it form paint… but thanks God I am moving forward with gimp.
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Oct 7, 2014, 20:03
Post: #37
RE: problem with drop shadow
(Oct 3, 2014 15:37)Kharl Wrote:  Yes but you didn’t read the reason why i didn’t got that (i dont blame you, i write a lot lol)
When he (Ofnuts) taugh me how to manually add a shadow (post 24).

After experiencing another gimp error (lost part of the work because I wanted to try the ofnuts instructions in a new gimp windows and gimp closed when I clicked the icon erasing all unsaved work (it did it twice to discard my mistake and in another computers to discard my computer problems)

And in the post 26 i said i was ok with the first step but with the second i asked how i do it because i didnt found the option of adding a new layer, i didn’t saw any menu item named
"new layer" (now I know what it is, I learned here http://www.youthedesigner.com/graphic-de...ith-gimp/)


and just after that i also mentioned "what is bucked fill?" if that was an option, an action, a movement...

you see what i mention?

Maybe I fail form first time, that I should have told you guys to EXPLAIN ME LIKE IF I WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER, I know your would slap your hand in your forehead and would send me to sleep with the fishes, if you explain something to your grandmother, you have to expliain it step by step AND for sure will have to repeat the same steps!
With me, steps by steps, but once you explain t ti right to me, dot have to touch that again!

Therefore I don’t need a 2000 pages tutorial.

Hi kharl,

I'd like to take the time to reply if only to one major part to your final thoughts.

Don't be afraid to cross-reference tools & techniques not clear on with the internet, there is a wealth of tutorials on youtube & online (text/video-combos) that can help you along the basics.

*I'll link you a couple great & popular tutorial sites at the end of this post*

I also invite you to watch my video tutorials(links under my signature pic) *especially the one where I make a map trail brush, follow along with it, it can give you more practice with Gimp. The more you use Gimp, the more comfortable you can get using the tools/filters & features. If you click on my gimpforums screenname, you can find more text/picture based tutorials in my "about me"

Tutorials are like a roadmap (aforementioned on here somewhere) it's usually specific to the need, but the bright side is, the use of the tools, some tutorials use commonly used tools for everyday photo editing. So if you get stuck at a step in a tutorial, look up that step online, there's a really good chance there's a tutorial for that step.

Lastly, the links ^_^
This thread alone has great resources(links) on using gimp
http://gimpforums.com/thread-how-to-use-gimp

"The tutorials & tips section" http://gimpforums.com/forum-tutorials-tips
The top threads are very helpful tips, below are the "normal threads"
A mix & match of tutorials & tips created by Gimp forum users

I gotta go, I may add more links, I'm favoriting this thread Happy Gimping!

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Oct 8, 2014, 04:53
Post: #38
RE: problem with drop shadow
(Oct 7, 2014 20:03)iForStyle007 Wrote:  ...............


Thank you a lot !

you guys are amazing!

i really appreciate it!

i havent been able to continue working with gimp until today, and i was able to continue by my self! of course, doing basic things.

once i finish this work (hopefully before this week ends) i will write a reminder in my phone to watch your tutorials twice in a week!


thank you guys!
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