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my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural

Apr 19, 2011, 19:42
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my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
does anybody know how to, if I free -selected my head and put it on a dragon's body to combine the color of the dragon with the color of my neck together to make it look natural (mix the two colors in a way that looks like it is transitioning from the dragon's flesh int mine) I'm sorry if I'm describing this in a hard way to understand what I'm trying to do.. I can't think of any better way to describe this... but I hope you guy get the picture on what I'm trying to accomplish (that I need your guy's help for)
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Apr 19, 2011, 20:25
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
Layer transparency can be controlled at the pixel level through a "layer mask".

Add a layer mask (Layer>Mask>Add layer mask) (and initialize to white) to the layer with your head. Make a rough selection of your neck, and put a white (top) to black (bottom) gradient in it (this gradient goes in the layer mask, of course). This will make you neck progressively transparent. When you are happy with the result, you can "Apply the layer mask". Of course, once you understand how the layer mask acts, you can paint different things in it. A V-shaped gradient may be more aesthetic.

You can enhance the effect by coloring your head to match the dragon body: pick a color on the body, and use a brush in "hue" mode, and paint over your face...

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Apr 20, 2011, 19:14
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(Apr 19, 2011 20:25)ofnuts Wrote:  Layer transparency can be controlled at the pixel level through a "layer mask".

Add a layer mask (Layer>Mask>Add layer mask) (and initialize to white) to the layer with your head. Make a rough selection of your neck, and put a white (top) to black (bottom) gradient in it (this gradient goes in the layer mask, of course). This will make you neck progressively transparent. When you are happy with the result, you can "Apply the layer mask". Of course, once you understand how the layer mask acts, you can paint different things in it. A V-shaped gradient may be more aesthetic.

You can enhance the effect by coloring your head to match the dragon body: pick a color on the body, and use a brush in "hue" mode, and paint over your face...

can't do that, add layer mask is grayed out!!!!
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Apr 20, 2011, 20:13
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
(Apr 20, 2011 19:14)justinrpg Wrote:  can't do that, add layer mask is grayed out!!!!
If only that line is grayed out and other mask-related menu items are available, it means you already have a mask (in the Layers dialog, you have two icons side by side for that layer, one for the image, and one for the mask). You can work directly on it then.

If all the mask items are grayed, may be your image is in a mode that doesn"t support masks (indexed?).

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Apr 20, 2011, 20:22
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(Apr 20, 2011 20:13)ofnuts Wrote:  
(Apr 20, 2011 19:14)justinrpg Wrote:  can't do that, add layer mask is grayed out!!!!
If only that line is grayed out and other mask-related menu items are available, it means you already have a mask (in the Layers dialog, you have two icons side by side for that layer, one for the image, and one for the mask). You can work directly on it then.

If all the mask items are grayed, may be your image is in a mode that doesn"t support masks (indexed?).

all mask related items are grayed out... the mode is RGB
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Apr 20, 2011, 20:52 (This post was last modified: Apr 20, 2011 20:59 by ofnuts.)
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Is your layer still a "floating selection" (i.e. the result of a "paste"). If so, add a new layer (that will take the contents of the selection). Then that layer will have the layer mask menu entries enabled.

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Apr 20, 2011, 21:14
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now I'm to the point where you said to put the white (top) to black (bottom) gradient in it.. how do I do that?
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Apr 20, 2011, 22:48
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
With the gradient tool...

With a layer mask, depending of the choice you make in the right click menu: "show layer mask", you will either:
- see the mask and edit the mask: editing the mask is easy, but you have to imagine the results.
- see the layer and edit the mask (the default): you see the results in real time, but you have to trust your tools since you don't see them directly.

So, even if you don't see the mask draw a gradient across your head and you'll see how that works (Ctrl-Z to undo)

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Apr 21, 2011, 21:12
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I found the gradient tool but white to black isn't an option in the choices... is it named something else?


I was at work all day andj ust got home... gimp has been open since this thread started... so that's why it took so long to post.... this has been a several day running project...
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Apr 22, 2011, 00:10
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
(Apr 21, 2011 21:12)justinrpg Wrote:  I found the gradient tool but white to black isn't an option in the choices... is it named something else?

You can set the gradient to any color you like with the same foreground and background colors you use for a brush. Set the FG and BG to the default white and black, then set the gradient tool's gradient to "FG to BG (RGB)". If the effect you get is backwards from what you wanted, just use Ctrl-Z to undo, then swap the FG and BG colors, or use the little double ended reverse arrow in the gradient tool and try again. (BTW, Gimp's name for it is actually the Blend tool).

(Apr 21, 2011 21:12)justinrpg Wrote:  I was at work all day andj ust got home... gimp has been open since this thread started... so that's why it took so long to post.... this has been a several day running project...

If you save your work in progress as an XCF file, you can close Gimp and then open it again later and all your layers and selections will still be there. The XCF format is Gimp's native format and will save all your work just as you left it. Its also a very good idea to save every once in a while, especially after making a big change or finally getting something just the way you wanted it, just to make sure you can get back to it if Gimp should crash or your power goes out or something. That way you can only lose what you've done since your last save.

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Apr 22, 2011, 00:46
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
(Apr 22, 2011 00:10)Virago Wrote:  
(Apr 21, 2011 21:12)justinrpg Wrote:  I found the gradient tool but white to black isn't an option in the choices... is it named something else?

You can set the gradient to any color you like with the same foreground and background colors you use for a brush. Set the FG and BG to the default white and black, then set the gradient tool's gradient to "FG to BG (RGB)". If the effect you get is backwards from what you wanted, just use Ctrl-Z to undo, then swap the FG and BG colors, or use the little double ended reverse arrow in the gradient tool and try again. (BTW, Gimp's name for it is actually the Blend tool).

(Apr 21, 2011 21:12)justinrpg Wrote:  I was at work all day andj ust got home... gimp has been open since this thread started... so that's why it took so long to post.... this has been a several day running project...

If you save your work in progress as an XCF file, you can close Gimp and then open it again later and all your layers and selections will still be there. The XCF format is Gimp's native format and will save all your work just as you left it. Its also a very good idea to save every once in a while, especially after making a big change or finally getting something just the way you wanted it, just to make sure you can get back to it if Gimp should crash or your power goes out or something. That way you can only lose what you've done since your last save.

another problem is going on, I did all that you said, but when i click on the selected area, to apply gradient, nothing happens!!! not working
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Apr 22, 2011, 00:59
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
(Apr 22, 2011 00:46)justinrpg Wrote:  another problem is going on, I did all that you said, but when i click on the selected area, to apply gradient, nothing happens!!! not working

To apply a gradient you click on the place you want it to begin, then drag to the spot you want it to end. In your case you would most likely go from the top of the neck to the bottom, or somewhere close to that. You can try a few different spots and see how it changes the effect. It also matters whether you drag from top to bottom, or bottom to top (or left to right, or whatever you're using) as it will change the direction of the gradient.

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Apr 22, 2011, 01:30
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
ok, got it!!! as you see this was a lot of trouble to go through, but I went ahead to do another (half to kinda to apply what I learned) and went a lot more smoothy, like the first time I learned how to use eBay, my first time was difficult, but now I'm a pro at eBay
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Apr 22, 2011, 01:48
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RE: my head on a dragon's body -- make it look natural
(Apr 22, 2011 01:30)justinrpg Wrote:  ok, got it!!! as you see this was a lot of trouble to go through, but I went ahead to do another (half to kinda to apply what I learned) and went a lot more smoothy, like the first time I learned how to use eBay, my first time was difficult, but now I'm a pro at eBay

Excellent, glad to hear it! That's part of the fun of doing graphics like this. Its so deep that there is always something new to learn, or some new technique to master. Practice and experiment and play with the stuff you don't know yet.

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