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is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?

Feb 2, 2011, 06:23 (This post was last modified: Feb 2, 2011 06:28 by digiday.)
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is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
Hi Gimpers,

I have been using GIMP for making some animated GIFs with sepia-toned colored RGB images with great success, but now I am trying to make some full color animated GIFs and since the GIMP animated GIF plugin only saves to INDEXED color, I find that my full color animated GIF trial files are looking pretty solarized in most areas of the image.

Is there a GIMP animated GIF plugin that allows me to save to an animated GIF in normal RGB colorspace and not in indexed color?

Or is there another app that will allow me to do that?

Thanks,

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Feb 2, 2011, 21:37
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
As far as I'm aware there isn't a plugin for that, but to keep the full quality of your animation you could just make it black, and white, and you won't get that ugly distorted animation.

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Feb 3, 2011, 08:07 (This post was last modified: Feb 3, 2011 18:20 by digiday.)
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
Thanks Mike (aka The Incredible Hulk)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Ferrigno#Career
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk

I've already made a B+W version, but that is more an alternative than a solution.

One thing I did that makes it a little easier to deal with visually is creating an oil painting effect and a watercolor effect of the original color photo, then work that in to the animated GIF to fade back and fourth with and that looks less distorted since it is rendering a photo illustration of the original photo and the 256 color limitation handles that rendering better... that became my self proclaimed solution.

Here is a link to a sample of this solution... give it a few seconds to load before the animation starts...
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/origi...498706.jpg

Also, someone elsewhere on this forum deleted my other post and didn't give any input... thanks to whoever did that.

PS: The email alerts on this forum don't work, even when "Subscribe and receive email notification of new replies" is selected.

Thanks,

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Feb 4, 2011, 15:03
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
Well there is one option I foundout back in 2007, cause I didn't like the only supporting 256 colors either. You can save each frame as a separate image (png recommended) and go to Lunapic.com and upload them there as an animation, you can change the milliseconds there as well. It's not the best, and can be very time consuming depending on how many frames you have, but that maybe something you may wanna give a try.

Also where'd the incredible hunk thing come from???

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Feb 4, 2011, 17:03 (This post was last modified: Feb 4, 2011 17:06 by digiday.)
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
Hi Mike,

The Incredible Hulk was green... I thought you were trying to look like the green, bare chested Incredible Hulk in your avatar photo... look at the links I provided on the subject.

Thanks for the suggestion for Lunapic.com... I'll check in to that... that would be good for a GIF with only a small number of frames, 20 or so at most... but for a GIF with 140 frames or so, that would be unbelievably time consuming to save each frame as a separate image and then to upload each of them separately... if I have a spare week, I could try it.

See the animation at this link... give it 10 or 20 seconds to load the full animation (depending on your internet connection)...
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/origi...539318.jpg

Thanks,

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Feb 5, 2011, 16:17
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
Naw I made the avi, cause I didn't like any of my past ones, and I just work really hard on my body spending 4 hours every day working out, to stay in shape (Doctor tells me, I suffer from Muscle Dysmorphia, cause of how my past went, and fitness, as well as fighting is a way I deal with my past) Not to mention the army background you cann't see, kind of wish I kept my stocks, and project files for this.

Yeah that looks like crap, I doubt PS would be any better though, cause animations I've done in that looked like crap too (maybe it was cause I used it back from PS 7 to PS CS3, and stopped using it altogether, and just stuck with Gimp)

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Feb 5, 2011, 20:53 (This post was last modified: Feb 6, 2011 09:19 by digiday.)
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
(Feb 5, 2011 16:17)mikethedj4 Wrote:  ... I just work really hard on my body spending 4 hours every day working out, to stay in shape...

Working out is good Mike... and a good relaxing jacuzzi is great afterward too... I ride my bike for around 4 hours of endurance riding over the Golden Gate Bridge in to Sausalito and Tiburon and all over San Francisco several times a week and workout too, so I can relate... but your avatar still appears to be a green tribute to the Incredible Hulk... Lou Ferrigno would be proud !

(Feb 5, 2011 16:17)mikethedj4 Wrote:  Yeah that looks like crap, ...

I don't know if it exactly looks like crap... that may be an overstatement, but it does look kind of funky... actually, since this one has various illustration types in it with drastically different colors from one extreme to the other, it looks pretty good for what its challenges are.

But I did figure out a way to clean up most of the solarized effect in GIFs with many different frames that have a large variation of colors from one extreme frame color to the next.

If a GIF animation has a great variation of colors throughout all of its frames, or within a single frame, then that affects which selection of 256 colors that will appear in all of the frames and therefore change which palette of colors are available to the overall number of frames.

It sort of makes a different starting point for which set of 256 colors can be used for the entire GIF animation, so it makes it so there is actually a different set of 256 colors available to all the frames since there is a drastic variation of colors from one extreme frame color to the other extreme, or extremes within a single frame.

So as much as a GIF file's appearance is affected by the limitation of 256 colors, it is also affected by which set of 256 colors that it can use based on the colors in all of its frames... soft of like, will it be color set 1-256, or will is be color set 10-266, or will it be color set 20-276, etc., etc.

And if there are fewer colors in the entire spectrum of a GIF from one frame to the next, it will allow all of the other frames to have a different reference point to start from, so any one frame has a better chance of looking smooth and less solarized.

This explains why the same image can appear differently from one GIF to the next depending on what the color requirements of all the other frames within a given GIF animation are.

I'll post a link to a sample that displays the differences that I'm talking about a little later... for now, see the sample at this link for a smoother example of a "Nifty GIFty"... give this one about 20 seconds or so to fully load before the animation starts...

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/origi...539086.jpg

More later,

ciao,

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Feb 5, 2011, 21:06 (This post was last modified: Feb 5, 2011 21:11 by digiday.)
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
here is a replacement link for the dead link in post #3 above...

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/origi...542730.jpg

That link was updated and there's a limit of 2880 minutes for editing any post on this forum... 2880 minutes?... why not just say "48 hours"?... or "2 days"?
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Feb 6, 2011, 09:39 (This post was last modified: Feb 6, 2011 16:57 by digiday.)
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A song and some GIFs
Mike,

I found a song that you might like... click this link and then click on the MP3 player's play button...
http://www.4shared.com/audio/eCKINT9x/Ke...ing_Gr.htm

Okay, here are a couple more links to some nice samples of strategically improved GIF production... give the GIFs at the links below about 10 to 30 seconds to fully load before the animation is completely smooth.

This one is an improved version of the GIF animation in the link in post #13 above... this has 2 less illustration samples in it so there are fewer colors to deal with for the limited 256 color palette that is in this GIF...
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/origi...653078.jpg

And here is a GIF that came out decent just based on what the one photo in it consists of and how it is animated, only needing one photo and about 16 layers/frames...
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/origi...645796.jpg

These are GIFs using my grandfather and my niece as subjects of animation... the first one is from a 1926 photo and the 2nd one is from a photo that is a bit more recent.

enjoy,

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Feb 9, 2011, 13:47
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RE: is there an animated GIF plugin for non-indexed color?
I'll haft to read these later, I don't have much time today being on the computer, just glad I was able to get on today.

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