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Is there a "paste multiple layers as images" plugin for GIMP?

Sep 10, 2011, 12:26
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RE: Is there a "paste multiple layers as images" plugin for GIMP?
There is a a difference, it is only for 2D artwork. It has a similar interface to GIMP and Inkscape. I have not done any importing, or the like, as I too have just found this.

I did not want to step on any toes with the question. I just know that Adobe products generally work better --like apple-- when used in combination.

As far as blender is concerned, I am also attempting to get into this as well. It has a very step IMHO learning curve. So, let's keep in touch on that one.

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Sep 10, 2011, 17:55
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RE: Is there a "paste multiple layers as images" plugin for GIMP?
digin,

2D animation is really all I am doing right now. Premiere has provisions for doing simple 2D animation, which I do use. It has a motion settings interface and keyframe animation is another technique that renders the same results. These methods are good for simple lateral and vertical movement, zooming in and out, rotation and some perspective bending. But these motion effects created in Premiere when rendered show signs of horizontal interlacing lines. Regular motion video that is placed in Premiere doesn't show any signs of the horizontal interlacing lines.

Then a deinterlacing filter can be applied to the rendered Premiere AVI file in VirtualDub, XMedia Recode and other apps and it takes away all the signs of the horizontal interlace lines.

But, for really small detail to be maintained in very sharp graphic and photo animation, the stop motion technique that I've been working with is the only way to go. That's where the GIMP scripts came in and worked so well to create all the stop frame images to import in to Premiere. My assembly line type of process that evolved out of necessity is really pretty amazing. Once set up in one Premiere file, I can create all the stop frame images with the GIMP scripts (which could also be done in Photoshop), then all I need to do is to change the name of a couple of folders and duplicate the base Premiere project file and re-import new sets of graphic or photo PSDs in to new Premiere file dupes over and over.

Whether or not I use Photoshop or GIMP, both create PSD files and that's what is necessary for Premiere to use for transparent background graphics and photos so other layers (tracks) beneath can show through.

I can blue screen, green screen and black screen things in Premiere by setting the layers (tracks) to various layer modes (similar to PS or GIMP) and using chroma key settings that way, but there are variable sliders that are a challenge to find the sweet-spot with to make the chroma key settings just right for smooth, sharp blue screen results.

Actually, the simple Windows Movie Maker apps for PCs and iMovie for Macs have fairly simple to use blue screening plugins that give great results without any muss and fuss, as long as I apply the plugin blue screen chroma key effect correctly.

So, what I'm wondering about the Synfig app that you are using is if it does any 2D figure animation with relative ease. I wonder if one can create a human figure silhouette and animate it to a particular dance motion, like I've seen in other animation samples.

The video at the posted link that I put in my last post to the Napoleon Dynamite movie clip is what I'd like to mimic, but that video doesn't lend itself to blue screening or any other chroma key type of figure isolation.

Please let me know if you find a way to animate a body silhouette in Synfig.

Thanks,

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Sep 10, 2011, 18:43
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RE: Is there a "paste multiple layers as images" plugin for GIMP?
Wow, this sounds like I have jumped it to the deep-end of the pool without a life-preserver. I have just started with animation, and you sound like you are lightyears ahead of me Sad But, no despair. I think I can read through the mumbo jumbo Smile!

What platform are you working on, or do you work on all currently. I have found, recently, a very good motion tracking software for your arsenal. I too work with many tools to active the best possible results.

I do, or have done in the past, mainly screen casting. Due to my desire to continue in this direction (even though it seems a little flooded at this point) and with my self-driven desire to excel in this area (as well in various other directions in digital media), I use a combination of tools to meet the goals and avoid having to purchase Adobe products; but to get "almost" the same results.

So, to stop rambling, one of these programs, which could be of interest to you is:

ScreenFlow - a great tool for anything non-linear that you want to do video files or even stills. Even though it stems from screen-recording, you will find no program of it's class for this price.
A great open source alternative is http://cinelerra.org/ CineleraCV But the horsepower under this hood is equivalent to FinalCut Pro

To your question about ease of animation, please look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLpC7trBf5A With this type of control, you should have no problem getting up and dancing in a hurry.

Hope this helps.

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Sep 10, 2011, 19:40
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RE: Is there a "paste multiple layers as images" plugin for GIMP?
I work on Mac and PC. I have the Adobes on my Macs at home and GIMP on my PC.

At present, I'm at another location on a PC with GIMP and Premiere.

The stuff I'm doing is very primitive and I'm only a beginner myself with animation... I'm a photo retoucher by trade otherwise.

Someone on the Adobe forum used my base image of a reel to reel tape deck illustration to do a rotation motion interlace test and he posted it on Muvipix... this will give you an idea of the interlacing effects that we were getting with motion created in Premiere. But like I said, a deinterlacing filter in VirutalDub or in XMedia Recode, both free, takes care of the horizontal interlace lines... here is his posted video showing what this problem looks like before deinterlacing filters are applied...
http://muvipix.com/cpg/displayimage.php?...at=0&pos=4

Then in contrast, here is this link of my test video that I posted a ways back showing the same illustration in a finished setting created with all stop frame animation in Premiere layers for ultimate sharpness...
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GfZ...Q&vq=hd720

You mentioned a "motion tracking" app that you like, but I'm not sure if that was the "cinelerra" app that you gave the link for, or another app that you didn't otherwise mention the name of... what is the motion tracking app that you were referring to?

The cinelerra app look good, but it isn't available for Mac or PC, just for Linux and some other less widespread OSs.

That's a nice little tutorial for Synfig. That would be an enormous amount of work to create and entire dance sequence that way... maybe a 6 month project to do it that way.

I'm more interested in a motion tracking app that could take the Napoleon Dynamite video and track the motion and allow me to isolate the body image and make a positive/negative version of that dance sequence.

Thanks,

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Sep 11, 2011, 15:30
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RE: Is there a "paste multiple layers as images" plugin for GIMP?
Sorry, the motion tracking software I was talking about (man I wish I had deleted that part) will probably not do that what you are looking for. It only allows for adding quartz filter to movies. It is called elasty and can be found in the app store.

To be honest, I am not sure you will find something like you are looking for. But, it is never impossible.

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Sep 11, 2011, 18:03
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No problemo.

I'll check out Elasty.

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Sep 23, 2011, 20:58 (This post was last modified: Sep 23, 2011 21:11 by digiday.)
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RE: Is there a "paste multiple layers as images" plugin for GIMP?
Hey diginin,

Here is what I was able to come up with for the Napoleon Dynamite dance segment with a few different filter techniques.

And there is a bit of the animation that the subject of this thread had to do with originally that is included in the "white movie projector" animation at the beginning and the end and the "blue movie camera" graphic animation at the end of this video too, though the main film with that type of still frame animation is still in the end of the production stages.

Once you are on this video player page on Vimeo, click the play button, then click the pause button and let it buffer for a few minutes before playing the video... buffer time depends on your internet connection speed, or course.

Boogie Oogie Oogie - Guest Dance Appearance by Napoleon Dynamite - LINK

ciao,

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