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I don't want any dockable dialogues there!

Sep 11, 2013, 00:58
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I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
I just got a new computer, which means installing a fresh new GIMP and getting it set up the way I want.
Last time I had an older version of GIMP and then I had it upgrade to 2.6, and things went fairly smoothly. This time I installed 2.6.2 straight-up.

What's bothering me is that once I'm in the single-window mode, after I get all the dialogues and toolboxes arranged the way I want, I have this empty space to the left of my image. By default that's where the tools go, but I moved mine to the right a long time ago and got used to it like that. (The dialogues were on the second monitor.)
But now I have nothing in that space. I have just this extra wasted screen space saying "You can drop dockable dialogs here" Yeah, I know. But I don't want to. And I can't get rid of that space. I can reduce it, but even at its smallest size I still have a waste of a good 22,220 pixels that I could be using to display more of my image.

How can I get rid of that dock and actually let my image will that space?
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Sep 11, 2013, 04:08 (This post was last modified: Sep 11, 2013 05:31 by iForStyle007.)
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RE: I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
(Sep 11, 2013 00:58)Marscaleb Wrote:  ...I'm in the single-window mode, after I get all the dialogues and toolboxes arranged the way I want, I have this empty space to the left of my image.

And that there my fellow gimper, is one of the few disadvantages of single-window mode.
I suggest multi-window mode, its more flexible, plus:
- you can drag the toolbars/layer dialog/window boxes out of sight to just their title bars when your working on fullscreen pictures.
- You can have a web browser open underneath/beside or multi-task with another program/editor.

If you want your Gimp to look more like PS, single-window mode is a nice gesture.

Another suggestion:
Download the GTK2 theme pack & try the different themes under single-window mode, maybe one theme will use less space?

Hope this helps
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Sep 11, 2013, 04:50
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RE: I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
(Sep 11, 2013 04:08)iForStyle007 Wrote:  I suggest multi-window mode, its more flexible, plus:

Multi-window mode requires me to adjust the size of each image's window. Often images open up to enormous sizes that hide under the toolbars or even stretch out past them onto the next screen where my tablet doesn't work. I have to resize the window for every image every time I open it. And I can't easily have the image fill the whole screen sans toolbars.

(Sep 11, 2013 04:08)iForStyle007 Wrote:  - You can have a web browser open underneath/beside or multi-task with another program/editor.

That's what having a second monitor is for.
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Sep 11, 2013, 05:31
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RE: I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
(Sep 11, 2013 04:50)Marscaleb Wrote:  
(Sep 11, 2013 04:08)iForStyle007 Wrote:  - You can have a web browser open underneath/beside or multi-task with another program/editor.

That's what having a second monitor is for.

Please post a screenshot of your final layout of toolbar arrangements under single-window mode where the wasted space is visible. We can only imagine what your configuration looks like.

& For the multi-screen/monitors: Can you put all the toolbars on one side of your second monitor and maximize the workspace/image on your first monitor? You will have more screen space that way.

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Sep 11, 2013, 12:06 (This post was last modified: Sep 11, 2013 12:12 by rich2005.)
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RE: I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
The 'hot-spot is not that easy to see in the standard windows/gimp themes. But it is there.

Smallest width you can get it down to is, the 'd' + half the 'o' in 'dockable'

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now is that
Quote: ...I still have a waste of a good 22,220 pixels that I could be using to display more of my image....

maybe 20 pix x 1080 pix

bottom line, get used to it

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Sep 11, 2013, 13:27
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RE: I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
(Sep 11, 2013 12:51)ofnuts Wrote:  
(Sep 11, 2013 12:06)rich2005 Wrote:  Smallest width you can get it down to is, the 'd' + half the 'o' in 'dockable'
I can go all the way (admittedly, on Linux)., just losing the width of the splitbar (mine is on the right):
What does the sessionrc file looks like in this case?

Get about a 20 pix strip in my PCLOS Gimp 2.8.6 as well, maybe I am missing some setting, please advise.

In a win7 gimp 2.8.6 VM Gimp maximised - usual procedure, out of single window mode, both docks on the right side, back to single window mode, resize the 'drop-dockable..thingy' to smallest.

sessionrc says
(factory-entry "gimp-single-image-window")
(position 0 0)
(size 1280 898)
(open-on-exit)
(aux-info
(left-docks-width "16")
(right-docks-width "327")
(maximized "yes"))

so it looks like 16 pix is the smallest here. attached the full file for info.


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Sep 11, 2013, 18:22
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RE: I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
You mean "user" sessionrc, the one that starts with
... You are not supposed to edit it manually, but of course you can do. The sessionrc will be entirely rewritten every time you quit GIMP...

Well in windoze, setting (left-docks-width "1") or to 0 and making it read-only, Gimp still starts up with that 16 pix margin.

It would not bother me but obviously the OP has problems with it. Maybe OP should raise the issue with the developers.

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Sep 12, 2013, 11:22
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RE: I don't want any dockable dialogues there!
I don't have much issues with this but of course I don't know what OS the OP is using. But I work on multiple desktops these days. Being a Linux user, I customized my system so I can use the mouse wheel to scroll through the desktops. I can place the work space (image window) on desktop 1 and my docks on desktop 2. If I am following a tutorial I can toss my browser on desktop 3. I am not certain if Windows has that ability, I am sure it must by now. Some day I might breakdown a buy another monitor. Dual monitor for GIMP would be so nice.

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Sep 12, 2013, 23:53
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(Sep 12, 2013 11:22)Wendy Black Wrote:  I don't have much issues with this but of course I don't know what OS the OP is using. But I work on multiple desktops these days. Being a Linux user, I customized my system so I can use the mouse wheel to scroll through the desktops. I can place the work space (image window) on desktop 1 and my docks on desktop 2. If I am following a tutorial I can toss my browser on desktop 3. I am not certain if Windows has that ability, I am sure it must by now. Some day I might breakdown a buy another monitor. Dual monitor for GIMP would be so nice.

Yeah, what I'd be worried about is the heat production of running two monitors(widescreen or 4:3 lcds) I've been to a friends computer room with two monitors, ugh its hot.

widescreens are nice (for me anyways). WB Wendy Smile
@OP: maybe you can pick a gimp theme that would make the space less noticeable, thats all I got.
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