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How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!

Aug 23, 2013, 01:26 (This post was last modified: Aug 23, 2013 01:30 by OldmansHQ.)
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Question How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
Ahoy!

First of all, I want to say sorry if this is the wrong forum section, I completely have no idea where to put this request or brainstorm.

So the story is, years ago I developed this love for landscapes in the legendary Samurai Jack. I tried recreating the style with traditional media. I wanted to do this so much that I was ready to spend a whole lot of money... But there is too many tools necessary. I doodle sometimes, I'm not an artist, so getting an expensive air brush would simply be stupid. Sometime ago I got my hands on a drawing tablet, and I used Gimp in some distant past for cropping and making userbars, so I have almost no clue how to use it, but I have it Smile! You see where this is going...

Here's a few of the landscape paintings I'm taking about. This is only a handful straight out of my library. These pictures are quite big so I decided to include only links:
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2zfpg01.jpg
http://oi42.tinypic.com/raygxh.jpg
http://oi41.tinypic.com/23h92c5.jpg
http://oi43.tinypic.com/1tvdkx.jpg
http://oi39.tinypic.com/xp22x4.jpg
http://oi39.tinypic.com/8x9f0z.jpg
http://oi41.tinypic.com/124a4hl.jpg
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2qnbdpk.jpg
http://oi42.tinypic.com/23m1v1u.jpg

These are gorgeous aren't they^_^? I love the colours, composition and simplicity. What makes them even more special is the fact they are made with traditional stuff. You might be asking yourself, 'how did you know what tools were used?' Check this out and you will understand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JeE5M2Mn38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-eS_xZbgtc

So the question is... HOW THE HELL DO I REPRODUCE THIS STYLE IN GIMP (what tools, what brushes, what techniques)?! Please explain to me how to achieve this kind lines or textures or tell me where I could learn this.

For example, what tools and how would you use them to get this kind of bark texture or leafs?
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I understand that some expert would do this kind of stuff without second thought, but as I mentioned, I barely know how Gimp works. I also don't expect to just like that create this kind of amazing grand art, I just want to see where to begin, perhaps this is the way to learn how Gimp works?
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Aug 23, 2013, 01:55
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
For starters, you can use a hard edge on your brushes to get that same cartoon feel to the drawings. Pick the brush with hardness 100, and scale down.
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-varia...brush.html



I love those backgrounds, they are so surreal, its like other worlds!

But back to creating them. For the bark/, you can create a pattern and paint it on.
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-concepts-patterns.html
1. Add a new layer "transparent" then begin painting your pattern.
Then change the layer mode of the pattern so it best overlays your tree.
You might be able to use some of the default patterns playing around with adding filters after.

If not, check out these free patterns & browser through, maybe you can find one similar(I found a couple of bark patterns on page 2 or 3 I think) http://www.texturemate.com/category/imag...eries/wood

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Aug 23, 2013, 13:47
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
If you would like, I could upload some more of those, but they can be easily found via Google.

A lot of the textures in the original backgrounds is made with sponge, so using sponge pattern seems like a good idea. Also is there anyway to randomize the sponge brush in Gimp? So that it doesn't always make exactly the same marks, maybe there is an option to make the brush rotate randomly as you use it?
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Aug 23, 2013, 14:47
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
I never watched Samurai Jack, I am sure my sons did, but from the images I am seeing a simple layered effect in most. Take for example this image;

   

The hills could be made with the path tool on several layers and filled with gradient color. Using a stamp brush you could paint the hills with pink flowers and trees.

At the moment I am working on my next tutorial in a series... but I could take a break and cook up a tutorial on how to make some cartoon backgrounds like your examples.

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Aug 23, 2013, 15:45 (This post was last modified: Aug 23, 2013 15:48 by OldmansHQ.)
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Ohh, I suggest you watch it, it has an amazing music, the choreography and the idea of a samurai in the distant, twisted future is pure genius + the stunning art. I think this cartoon is just as good for adults, as for kids. I've seen it from both perspectives Smile.

I would very much appreciate such tutorial, but have in mind that what I am asking is not cartoon backgrounds, but Samurai Jack backgrounds! Watch the videos in my first post (there is four of them on the channel), I think the person who's painting in those is Scott Wills, he was responsible for art direction in the cartoon. Maybe you can translate the process he is utilising into the digital media.

Here's something potentially useful Smile:
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Aug 23, 2013, 18:07
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
Just my thoughts.
I did look at part of a demo video. It was graphic art, painting on paper. Replicate this in Gimp? Maybe not the best tool.

Since you have a graphics pad, perhaps start off in MyPaint, colour washes, some textures, but basically painting. It does mean you need some artistic ability, even if lacking, it is still great fun.

http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ have a look around the examples on the web site.

A good example tutorial, a little old, the latest MyPaint is much improved.
http://www.gimptalk.com/index.php?/topic...-tutorial/

but

Do not limit yourself to MyPaint, it will create layers that you save in ora (openraster) format that Gimp will open and also export. Make your backgrounds in MyPaint, then add the details, those stars, patches, etc using Gimp.

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Aug 23, 2013, 20:11
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
You could be right about Gimp not being the right thing. I decided to give it a shot, I downloaded MyPaint. It looks nice (?) and simple, however there is no sponge! Most of all, MyPaint doesn't work well with my tablet. I have no idea why or even what's happening, but just like in case of the normal Paint it lags. When I try to make a line, as soon as the pen touches the surface of the tablet, the cursor changes into a circle, and it lags. Making it impossible to write or make any kind of fast strokes. Never had this problem with Gimp, or the PS trial. Anyway, did I mention there is no sponge Tongue?
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Aug 24, 2013, 01:46
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
(Aug 23, 2013 13:47)OldmansHQ Wrote:  Also is there anyway to randomize the sponge brush in Gimp? So that it doesn't always make exactly the same marks, maybe there is an option to make the brush rotate randomly as you use it?

^_^ ! Your in luck, check, "Apply Jitter" and adjust the strength.
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tools-paint...nt-options

If you want to fade out your brush strokes, look at "Incremental"

Cool far-near painting tutorial by the way, & additional pic links are not needed, I'll google them XD
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Aug 24, 2013, 02:34
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I know that guide picture is awesome, shame that's all I could find Sad... If you find something like that feel free to throw it in here.

Apply Jitter does nothing, picked Cell 02 brush, scaled up and had a good look at it. Jitter changes absolutely nothing.
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Aug 24, 2013, 08:31
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
(Aug 24, 2013 02:34)OldmansHQ Wrote:  I know that guide picture is awesome, shame that's all I could find Sad... If you find something like that feel free to throw it in here.

Apply Jitter does nothing, picked Cell 02 brush, scaled up and had a good look at it. Jitter changes absolutely nothing.

If all you did was check the "jitter" box, especially if amount is set to 0.00, it's not going to change anything. You need to set the ammount and brush size.

I like using this effect to make dust trails (with the spark brush; yellow soft spot looking brush)

please See example below:
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Aug 24, 2013, 11:16
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
Here is your tutorial OldmansHQ... in GIMP not in MyPaint...

http://gimpforums.com/thread-sponge-pain...landscapes

... and uh Rich why are you talking about alien programs? EVERYONE DUCK it is a conspiracy!!

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Aug 24, 2013, 13:29 (This post was last modified: Aug 24, 2013 13:33 by OldmansHQ.)
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(Aug 24, 2013 08:31)iForStyle007 Wrote:  If all you did was check the "jitter" box, especially if amount is set to 0.00, it's not going to change anything. You need to set the ammount and brush size.

I like using this effect to make dust trails (with the spark brush; yellow soft spot looking brush)
I changed the amount to 5 then to maximum. I know now why it didn't work, it's because I was making single clicks with it. I see how it woks now. Still, that does not randomize the brush, only placement of marks. Is there no plugin which rotates the brush itself randomly after making each mark?

(Aug 24, 2013 11:16)Wendy Black Wrote:  Here is your tutorial OldmansHQ... in GIMP not in MyPaint...

http://gimpforums.com/thread-sponge-pain...landscapes
Ok so I read it. That is a very good start, I could think of few more effects which could be applied to for example textures or randomize trees. But... how would you make a city? Also do you see the little picture with red circles, at the bottom of my first post? That was just an example, there is plenty of these kind of things in the original backgrounds. I will you another example, http://oi39.tinypic.com/xp22x4.jpg the grass in front of the fallen tree.

I was struck by migraine, as soon as it stops I'll try making something with the tutorial Smile.

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Aug 24, 2013, 20:59
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
(Aug 24, 2013 13:29)OldmansHQ Wrote:  ...But... how would you make a city? ...

Same method as making hills just make them squared and add little windows. It is easy enough to reverse engineer a drawing. I am more into creating something that I haven't seen before. From the looks of it, the original artist used a chalk or colored charcoal and not computerized art.

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Aug 26, 2013, 01:17
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
I tried making it, the way it's in the tutorial... The Path tool is infuriating, I watched some YouTube videos on how to use it. Even then it is really annoying. I couldn't get the composition right, the pallet nor the textures. The original art is truly magic.I wonder how much easier would be doing these backgrounds in PS.
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Aug 26, 2013, 05:40
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RE: How do I reproduce this style in Gimp? Help!
(Aug 26, 2013 01:17)OldmansHQ Wrote:  I tried making it, the way it's in the tutorial... The Path tool is infuriating, I watched some YouTube videos on how to use it. Even then it is really annoying. I couldn't get the composition right, the pallet nor the textures. The original art is truly magic.I wonder how much easier would be doing these backgrounds in PS.

the paths tools/points control in inkscape are easier to use compared to AI, plus it works alongside gimp (importable to gimp) I'd recommend trying to make paths in inkscape if your computer is good (1gb ram or more) do all your filter/blur work in gimp, inkscape excells at basic path drawing/color.

Since PS & AI are by made by the same company, if you haven't used them yet, their point dragging & path systems are similar & IMO a bit infuriating too lol.
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