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GIMP including every font on my system

Jun 16, 2014, 04:43
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GIMP including every font on my system
I've been working with Gimp on Mac and Windows for years, but only recently started working more with text on images. My list of fonts to choose from was overwhelming before I had even added any myself, because apparently Gimp pulls in every font that's on your system, including the ones you didn't know about.

So I disabled a lot of fonts in FontBook - that didn't hide them from GIMP.

I removed the directories in preferences where Gimp looks for fonts - that didn't help either.

I installed Suitcase Fusion and set up a collection of fonts just for Gimp - it still pulls in every font on my system.

Am I doing something wrong? I can't figure out how to pare down the list of fonts available to Gimp, or sort them somehow. I have to keep a piece of paper handy with font samples and use it to pick a font, and even then scrolling through to the correct font can take a surprising amount of time.
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Jun 16, 2014, 06:56
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RE: GIMP including every font on my system
1) are you talking about OSX or Windows?
2) how many fonts have you got on your system alone?

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Jun 16, 2014, 13:50
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RE: GIMP including every font on my system
Mac OS X (Mavericks) is what I use primarily, and will hopefully soon be all I'm using, so let's focus on that system.

How many fonts? Suitcase Fusion reports 600 "local" fonts, 121 "system fonts" and 29 "user" fonts. The 29 are ones I intentionally downloaded and added; the rest must have been installed by programs that came with my Mac (I've read that Adobe, iLife, etc., add lots of their own fonts).

It's not that I have thousands of fonts, and it's also not that Gimp loads slowly - it loads super-fast. The "problem" is that I thought the text tool dropdown was supposed to help me preview and select fonts that suit my current project, but with 700+ fonts to scroll through, the majority of which I will never use in GIMP (foreign, Apple Braille, lookalikes for standard fonts) after a while it's all just a blur. What I would like is for the dropdown to ONLY show those fonts I have selected somehow for use in GIMP, but neither FontBook nor Suitcase had any impact - Gimp still locates and displays every font it can find in my system.

BTW, the Fontbook "disabling" feature keeps fonts from being loaded in memory, without deleting them. That way if you disable a font some application needs down the line, you can just un-disable it.

I guess if all else fails, maybe I can just make a collection of fonts in Fontbook, call it "Gimp", and switch over to it to select fonts, using Gimp's dropdown strictly as a selecting tool. More cumbersome, but if Gimp is actually intended to grab every font on the system, even those you didn't know you had and don't particularly want and have "disabled" from other programs, then that may be my only choice.
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Jun 16, 2014, 15:18
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RE: GIMP including every font on my system
The question is how can Gimp distinguish between fonts that interest you and those that don't? You must have the same problem in other applications (word processor, slide authoring)?

IIRC on Windows there is a trick to make Gimp ignore all system-installed fonts (but this also remove fairly useful fonts, that have to be re-installed locally). I don't know if such a trick is possible on OSX.

On Linux I uninstall the fonts I don't need.

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Jun 16, 2014, 21:55 (This post was last modified: Jun 16, 2014 21:57 by Devi.)
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RE: GIMP including every font on my system
Well, I thought a font manager was supposed to let you control which fonts Gimp accesses, but a friend tested Suitcase Fusion for me and then did some Googling. Apparently this is because Gimp manages fonts in a non-standard way that makes it incompatible with font managers.

I'm assuming at this point my only option is to look at my fonts in FontBook, choose the ones I want for a project, and then use the Gimp dropdown strictly for selecting the one I've chosen. Which is doable - still beats buying Photoshop! But is there a standard or best way to submit feedback to the developers? I would like to make a suggestion about this.
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Jun 17, 2014, 00:08
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RE: GIMP including every font on my system
Submit a bug/feature request: http://bugzilla.gnome.org

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Jun 17, 2014, 08:16
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RE: GIMP including every font on my system
Apple has a Braille font?

I thought Braille was for... oh, never mind.
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Jun 17, 2014, 09:23
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RE: GIMP including every font on my system
(Jun 17, 2014 08:16)btraven Wrote:  Apple has a Braille font?

I thought Braille was for... oh, never mind.
It's used to create bump maps Smile

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