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Document Presets

Apr 22, 2014, 14:05
Post: #1
Document Presets
Is there a way to create a new set of distributable document presets?

In GIMP they refer to them as Templates in the Create a New Image dialog.

What I want to do is something that I can do in the Adobe CS6 suite. In CS6 documents I can create a series of predefined document layouts. For instance I have document presets for all the variations of the Kindle wallpapers.

This makes development of multiple reusable documents that much easier from a design view. I hate having to tell the program the image dimensions, dpi/ppi, usage (print/screen), etc over and over.

If this is not clear please help me by telling me what I can do to help make myself understood.

Thanks for your time.
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Apr 22, 2014, 14:21 (This post was last modified: Apr 22, 2014 14:22 by rich2005.)
Post: #2
RE: Document Presets
Quote:...create a series of predefined document layouts...

Is this not what saving in xcf format does?

Saves the document properties and any layers, guides, grids masks etc with the image.

The template in the File -> New -> Template dialog is the list of sizes (with ppi & colorspace in the templaterc file you can find in your Gimp profile. .gimp-2.8\

Example this is my first entry in templaterc
(GimpTemplate "default 800x540"
(width 800)
(height 540)
(unit pixels)
(xresolution 95.000000)
(yresolution 95.000000)
(resolution-unit inches)
(image-type rgb)
(fill-type background-fill)
(comment "made by rich"))

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Apr 22, 2014, 14:22
Post: #3
RE: Document Presets
I see now that there is a very basic "Create Template" option located in the File menu just below the Export options.

I see that if I use this Create Template it will save my current document size, resolution, and give it whatever name I put into the create dialog. It then saves it to the top of the template list.

There has to be a better and more organized way of going about doing this.

Any suggestions? Perhaps where are the templates stored and how could GIMP be made to place them in some sort of logical order?

Thank you,
Battlecat

(Apr 22, 2014 14:05)battlecat Wrote:  Is there a way to create a new set of distributable document presets?

In GIMP they refer to them as Templates in the Create a New Image dialog.

What I want to do is something that I can do in the Adobe CS6 suite. In CS6 documents I can create a series of predefined document layouts. For instance I have document presets for all the variations of the Kindle wallpapers.

This makes development of multiple reusable documents that much easier from a design view. I hate having to tell the program the image dimensions, dpi/ppi, usage (print/screen), etc over and over.

If this is not clear please help me by telling me what I can do to help make myself understood.

Thanks for your time.
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Apr 22, 2014, 14:26
Post: #4
RE: Document Presets
Hello:

I believe that saving in xcf format is just like saving in psd for Photoshop. Isn't it?

What I want to do is to be able to predefine my workflow document specs in the the template system. It is one of the things I really like about the Adobe CS6 suite. When I am working with someone I can tell them what paper/screen I am using and that way it always gets it correct on the first try.

Of course yes each time I could enter it by hand but that gets really repetitive when you are doing say 10-20 posters a day and then some kindle wallpapers etc.

Thank you for your help,
Battlecat

(Apr 22, 2014 14:21)rich2005 Wrote:  
Quote:...create a series of predefined document layouts...

Is this not what saving in xcf format does?

Saves the document properties and any layers, guides, grids masks etc with the image.

The template in the File -> New -> Template dialog is the list of sizes (with ppi & colorspace in the templaterc file you can find in your Gimp profile. .gimp-2.8\

Example this is my first entry in templaterc
(GimpTemplate "default 800x540"
(width 800)
(height 540)
(unit pixels)
(xresolution 95.000000)
(yresolution 95.000000)
(resolution-unit inches)
(image-type rgb)
(fill-type background-fill)
(comment "made by rich"))
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Apr 22, 2014, 14:39 (This post was last modified: Apr 22, 2014 14:43 by rich2005.)
Post: #5
RE: Document Presets
You have stop thinking PS (or go back to using it)

You can edit the order of entries in the templaterc file if you want to. It is just a text file.

For the sort of template arrangement you described.
Make a folder specifically for templates. Create your template save it with a descriptive name. Use it as a basis to create your new image(s).

A simple example. A DVD video menu. All it is background so I can see what I am doing, a transparent layer for the menu graphics and some guides to mark out the 'safe-area'. Not much, but as you pointed out earlier, saves having to set it up for each new image.
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Apr 22, 2014, 14:47
Post: #6
RE: Document Presets
@battlecat

Sorry for the frequent updates but I am having a bad-spelling day. No need to quote these long posts either.

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Apr 22, 2014, 14:47
Post: #7
RE: Document Presets
Hello:

Thank you for the information. It will be useful but not really what I was hoping for.

I will have to say that I have been using Linux for only 10+ years but this often said mantra of "If you don't like it go back to x, y, or z" is not really productive.

From an open source perspective I would think that adopting and adapting good practices and workflows from other programs would be considered progressive.

Opensource should be open to change and new ideas from everywhere not just the repetitive oh get out of here and use something else if you don't like it.

I am not intending to offend you but I will not accept the philosophy of if you don't like it then leave it.

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Apr 22, 2014, 14:57
Post: #8
RE: Document Presets
You might have noticed that the screenshot was linux. KDE PClinuxOS

Too many posts these days start off 'I have been using PS but now...' and then want Gimp to be the same. Since you use linux you must know that Gimp has never been a PS clone and you must have seen all different types of interface.

Quote:adopting and adapting good practices and workflows from other programs

This sounds awfully like that pointless discussion on the gimp-mailing list - save vs. export.
Who defines good practice? Not me.

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Apr 22, 2014, 15:04
Post: #9
RE: Document Presets
Hi:
Smile Thank you for the civil response.

I do not want a PS clone. I love the design software on linux.

There are certain best practices that work really well in the industry, especially when working in groups, that I would like to see ported to the design software on *nix.

A best practice usually becomes defined by a large group of users who agree that its a best practice. Its not like a law or or anything. If it makes a workflow faster, easier, uniform, and causes less issues than it fixes it usually will be considered a best practice.

Adobe has tons of issues with its CS6 and CC. It also has tons of good things to be learned from.

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