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Changing Versions

Jul 14, 2013, 18:03 (This post was last modified: Jul 14, 2013 18:05 by Markustay.)
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Changing Versions
Not sure where to put this - new to these forums (so I figured 'Beginners' fits).

I've been using GIMP for awhile now, after reluctantly switching from PS/CS, which was a real headache for me (its harder to re-learn stuff then to learn it the first time). However, I eventually got used to it, and even found I liked a couple of things better.

So I just downloaded the 2.8 version - I was using 2.6 - and I would have a hard time recommending anyone ever do that. Not only do I find it less intuitive -its seems to have been 'dumbed down' - but it lost all of my customizations. The first time I booted it up, my patterns were all there, but now they are gone. This was probably due to my resetting the tools, because I lost my brush settings box. In earlier versions I didn't lose anything when I reset to default - thats a really BAD change!

And I still have the files, but when I try to resave them as patterns (which works differently in 2.8), I get a 'permission denied' message. WTH? I even tried to change the permissions on the target folder, and it still won't let me.

So please tell me why I shouldn't just delete this and go back to an earlier version (that will save files the way I want)?
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Jul 14, 2013, 18:54 (This post was last modified: Jul 14, 2013 18:56 by Markustay.)
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First off, thanks for the quick response. Smile

I did change the permissions on the folder (as I stated above), and still got that message.

However, I found that now I can simply drop the patterns directly in the folder and they appear in GIMP (after re-booting the program). Of course, I had to already save them as .pat files as well.

I just don't understand why I never saw these types of permission alerts before - in 2.6 I had no problem saving patterns directly into the directory. Now I have to use Windows to do this - it seems less intuitive.

I am also SOOOO not loving the way opacity works now - anyway to change that back to the slider-bar? I do a lot of fantasy map-making, and I do a monumental amount of C&P to do that, and opacity is something I am constantly adjusting (to see whats underneath as I tweak stuff).
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Jul 18, 2013, 13:28 (This post was last modified: Jul 18, 2013 13:28 by Markustay.)
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Once again, thanks for the response.

(Jul 14, 2013 19:20)ofnuts Wrote:  For the permissions: Gimp has two folders for most things (patterns, fonts...). One is your own and is R/W and one is the system (shared by all users) and is R/O (see Edit/Preferences/Folders). You can' t edit things directly in the system folder, but this isn't new in 2.8, it was already the case in 2.6.
Well, I did find a work-around for this simply dropping and dragging in windows, but I still feel this was WAY easier in 2.6.
(Jul 14, 2013 19:20)ofnuts Wrote:  There is still a slider bar for opacity in 2.8. Maybe you don't identify it as such because the looks and usage have changed a bit (it can be used in coarse/fast more or in fine/slow mode, depending on where you click). If you use this function a lot you can assign to to keyboard shotcuts, or to mouse events. If you have a wheel mouse, you can put the pointer over the slider and use the wheel to set it.
I think I found this, but its harder to use, IMO. I guess I just hate having to relearn stuff AGAIN. I will try customizing things as you've suggested - Thanks.

As a fantasy cartographer, text is very important, and I was wondering if we'll ever see the kind of customization I used to be able to do with PS in GIMP? The way I have to do 'Glow' now is a real PitA. I used to just drop all the text in the same folder and glow the whole thing (which means new adds would automatically have the glow effect). When I moved the text, the glow went with it.

Now I have a Glow layer, and I have to re-paint everything I move or add each time, and it also lacks consistency that way. Since I am constantly moving text as I tweak things, this has slowed me down considerably. Anyone know a better solution?
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Jul 18, 2013, 21:02
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RE: Changing Versions
(Jul 14, 2013 18:03)Markustay Wrote:  Not sure where to put this - new to these forums (so I figured 'Beginners' fits).

I've been using GIMP for awhile now, after reluctantly switching from PS/CS, which was a real headache for me (its harder to re-learn stuff then to learn it the first time). However, I eventually got used to it, and even found I liked a couple of things better.

So I just downloaded the 2.8 version - I was using 2.6 - and I would have a hard time recommending anyone ever do that. Not only do I find it less intuitive -its seems to have been 'dumbed down' - but it lost all of my customizations. The first time I booted it up, my patterns were all there, but now they are gone. This was probably due to my resetting the tools, because I lost my brush settings box. In earlier versions I didn't lose anything when I reset to default - thats a really BAD change!

And I still have the files, but when I try to resave them as patterns (which works differently in 2.8), I get a 'permission denied' message. WTH? I even tried to change the permissions on the target folder, and it still won't let me.

So please tell me why I shouldn't just delete this and go back to an earlier version (that will save files the way I want)?
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Jul 18, 2013, 21:07
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Thanks for the warning.

I originally had 2.8 but accidentally deleted. And I've been able to find 2.8 since. I thought maybe was to be a paid program.

I'm now using 2.6 with no noticeable problems. I guess I'll stick to it for a while to see what happens.

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Jul 27, 2013, 15:24 (This post was last modified: Jul 27, 2013 15:33 by Markustay.)
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(Jul 19, 2013 10:14)ofnuts Wrote:  For the 2.8-hostiles: http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.8.html
LOL

Just learned I can't create a new text layer the way I want. My files from 2.6 went through some sort of conversion (god only knows why) and now I can't place text anywhere I need to (which is terrible for someone trying to do cartography).

EDIT: Finally figured out how to add a new text layer without it automatically attaching itself to some existing layer (I don't know what I did differently, but it finally worked). Now I need to know how to get rid of that incredibly annoying floating text box - what the heck is that about? I can't turn it off, and its totally in my way.

I can't believe how counter-intuitive GIMP has become. I am seriously considering finally going back to PS.
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