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Bad Apple?

Jul 19, 2012, 18:12 (This post was last modified: Jul 19, 2012 18:15 by caz.)
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Bad Apple?
   
I've been trying to make the apple from a photoshop tutorial I found - couldn't find one on how to do it in Gimp. Here's a link to it link.

The problem I've got is I can't work out how to get the recess/depression at the top of the apple to work? - as I don't know the proper name for it I'll just say the bit where the stalk comes out.
Some of the other stuff don't work to well. I had to increase most of the blur numbers to get a reasonable look, and no way can I figure out how to reshape the apple or the window reflection./ I've tried using the perspective tool and a few others but to no avail.

Any hints or clues would be great.

Here's a copy of the xcf in-case anyone wants to take a look, or wants to use it to make their own apple.


The blue layer is a extra added by me. I hope to be able to make a blue/black apple as the final product.

Cheers.

Edit: For some reason I can't add the xcf, tried a couple of times but no joy. Weird.

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Jul 20, 2012, 18:09
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RE: Bad Apple?
I'll give that a go and see what happens. I think in the tut it said to use a clipping mask, couldn't find one in Gimp so I guess it's not there.

Still can't add the xcf to this post, not that it matters though. Just thought I'd mention it in-case there's a problem with the forum.

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Jul 21, 2012, 08:42
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RE: Bad Apple?
This is PS but is a good explanation of clipping masks. I have this video saved and the url took a little digging out so:
http://blip.tv/psdtuts/what-is-a-clippin...en-4728615
The presenter does say towards the end that there is not much difference between a clipping mask and a layer mask.
Especially with Gimp there are always many ways to do anything, just keep focused on the end result rather than the intermediates.

If you want to experiment without spending lots on PS then Inkscape has a limited form of clipping.

example here. http://i.imgur.com/mwOcC.jpg
in this case the top group of objects (path) masks any objects under when clip is applied.

But not impossible in Gimp with the tools available.

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Jul 21, 2012, 17:37
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RE: Bad Apple?
Thanks guys for the advice and the links, I'll check them out and see if I can get the apple to look more like the one in the tutorial.

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Jul 22, 2012, 09:52
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RE: Bad Apple?
   

Okay I think I figured out how to get the depression effect around the stalk. I used a selection layer mask on the dent layer, then blurred the dent shadow layer by about 70 pixels. Next I inverted the dent selection and then deleted the excess shadow - the part of it that was outside the dent selection - and then turned off the dent layer. It can be deleted as there appears to no further use for it.

I sussed out how to do this not by understanding which filters to use, that part came later, but by understanding how the effect works. Shadow is used to play a trick on the eye was the conclusion I arrived at, and it appears to work.

Now to find out how to change the shape.Smile

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Jul 28, 2012, 17:32
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Here's the latest version.

After hunting around in the filters I found under Distort the Curve Bend filter. This one works a charm for changing the shape of an object and is well worth a look at. The only down side to it is that after altering the apple's shape there is ragged edge left. I've tried to get ride of this by selecting the apple and making the selection a couple of pixels smaller, feathering the edge and inverting the selection before deleting it. But to be honest I've yet to find a way to remove the ragged edge that I'm happy with.

Ho hum, back to the drawing board.

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Jul 28, 2012, 18:19
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(Jul 28, 2012 17:32)caz Wrote:  Here's the latest version.

After hunting around in the filters I found under Distort the Curve Bend filter. This one works a charm for changing the shape of an object and is well worth a look at. The only down side to it is that after altering the apple's shape there is ragged edge left. I've tried to get ride of this by selecting the apple and making the selection a couple of pixels smaller, feathering the edge and inverting the selection before deleting it. But to be honest I've yet to find a way to remove the ragged edge that I'm happy with.

Ho hum, back to the drawing board.

Looking at that apple makes me mouth water, Tongue , Vj-
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Jul 28, 2012, 20:00
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(Jul 28, 2012 17:32)caz Wrote:  Here's the latest version.

After hunting around in the filters I found under Distort the Curve Bend filter. This one works a charm for changing the shape of an object and is well worth a look at. The only down side to it is that after altering the apple's shape there is ragged edge left. I've tried to get ride of this by selecting the apple and making the selection a couple of pixels smaller, feathering the edge and inverting the selection before deleting it. But to be honest I've yet to find a way to remove the ragged edge that I'm happy with.

Ho hum, back to the drawing board.

Me managed to make some sort of a spherical fruit,but cant get the proper apple shape in gimp,there he mentioned using the warp filter in photoshop,eyah that works,but how is one supposed to do something similar in gimp???, Sad , Vj-
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Jul 29, 2012, 10:03
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Quote:Me managed to make some sort of a spherical fruit,but cant get the proper apple shape in gimp,there he mentioned using the warp filter in photoshop,eyah that works,but how is one supposed to do something similar in gimp???, Sad , Vj-

If you go to Filters, Distort and then Curve Bend a grid appears where you can change the top or bottom of any object by moving the line on the grid around. It's a pretty nifty tool and I'm glad I found it.

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