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Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?

Dec 11, 2013, 04:44 (This post was last modified: Dec 11, 2013 04:44 by iForStyle007.)
Post: #46
RE: Celery Eggo better than eggs - for infants
(Dec 10, 2013 20:50)Judy Wrote:  So IMO if it's all that hard to teach the EGGO animation to a Newb (I.E. there's not one newb video re: Gimp text-animation) then I must say GIMP has a steep learning curve for those who are true newbs.

The real question is how you found out about the Gimp program? If it's a close friend or relative, I would ask them to set aside some time to give you one on one help using the program, so they can point out what your doing wrong if you do it. Even if it's not, maybe you know someone who can show you the ropes in person, or help you with the contest/project/Gimp? I think that would ultimately be more beneficial at this point.

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't see that you tried the board style yet. I'm logged on just now for today, I graciously volunteer my time to help out when I can.

Forum style
Please try the "Default" theme of the forum, its black text on a white background, also see your thread on the "Gimpforums.com" section
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Dec 11, 2013, 06:16 (This post was last modified: Dec 11, 2013 06:27 by Judy.)
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RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
OK, look, I gave it a last try - but by now I give up. No, I don't have anyone to ask this of. Do you think I didn't (weeks ago) ask the jerk at my local library's tech section? She said she knew either photoshop or Adobe, but she was totally not forthcoming. CLOSED OFF, that's what she was. That's what they ALL are. Such is my luck - consistently.

So - I give up. As usual, I wasted weeks of time for nothing (recurring theme) - and I'd appreciate if nobody responds with holier than thou smugness or karma might test you, and you aint seen nothin' yet - and that's an understatement

iForStyle, at least I learned how to change board style on myBB type forums (handy if I ever chance to land on a myBB forum again Big Grin but way too late, since my eyes have already become worn out from these past weeks of squinting in front of a "blackboard"

Ofnuts, either you or someone else keeps dumping my posts back onto this "dumping ground" thread. You'd wanted a focused post. So I made the Celery-Eggo post, and you dumped it right back onto this humongous thread. Thanks, but no thanks.

One more final emphasis:

If there's anyone here wanting to be more friendly to True Newbs - do them a favor:
(1) Switch Default-Style to Black On White upon registration
(2) Change the term "Beginners" to => "Not Quite Beginners"
(3) Change QUICK-EDIT popups which disappear beneath taskbar - to buttons instead
..........(can add more, but enuf said..
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Dec 12, 2013, 01:13 (This post was last modified: Dec 12, 2013 01:14 by iForStyle007.)
Post: #48
RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
(Dec 11, 2013 06:16)Judy Wrote:  So - I give up. As usual, I wasted weeks of time for nothing (recurring theme) - and I'd appreciate if nobody responds with holier than thou smugness or karma might test you, and you aint seen nothin' yet - and that's an understatement

iForStyle, at least I learned how to change board style on myBB type forums (handy if I ever chance to land on a myBB forum again Big Grin but way too late, since my eyes have already become worn out from these past weeks of squinting in front of a "blackboard"
...

If there's anyone here wanting to be more friendly to True Newbs - do them a favor:
(1) Switch Default-Style to Black On White upon registration
(2) Change the term "Beginners" to => "Not Quite Beginners"
(3) Change QUICK-EDIT popups which disappear beneath taskbar - to buttons instead
..........(can add more, but enuf said..[/b]

>_> This will teach me to really try to help someone who ask more questions then can be answered in one or two posts in the future.
"Wasted" weeks? you learned a valuable free program, saying you wasted your time wastes our help & time to you. You came to a forum for help when everyone else in person was closed off to help you like you said.

So its not a waste! All the tools/references are here for your leasure...
At least you learned how to use Gimp/learn about, so its something you can use in the future when you get around to learning how to use it more thoroughly.

As for (2) The term is fitting/appropriate because most come here with a small problem or a small part to a bigger problem/how to, sometimes you have to just do a small section first and then tackle another small section after until the job is done.

What you put into a project effort-wise, is what you will get out of it.
So I hope you don't get discouraged and give up fully on this program, it is really nice.
So good day to you
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Dec 13, 2013, 20:02 (This post was last modified: Dec 13, 2013 20:11 by Judy.)
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RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
iForStyle, please do not get discouraged from helping people.
You're very thorough at helping. And yes, I did pick up a few things from some of you at some spots throughout this thread.

And the appearance & naming of the board was not your doing.
And the fact that myself & various members were sometimes at cross-purposes was not either your doing. That was Fate plus migraine-induced mood sprinkled to the mix. Big Grin

As you see, I'm an exception.
I'm old, worn out & electrosensitive.

When ur in pain (sitting on hot tin roof) it's hard to read lengthy instructions. And consequently hard to always be politically correct.

I hope you accept my apologies on that score.

As for the rest, I actually just found what appears to be a pretty good pictorial online tutorial for Newbs, and if that doesn't drum something into my migrainy skull - nothing will. (Maybe I'll try it step by tiny-step.

Again, my apologies to whoever it may concern. Also don't let this experience scare you off future Newbs, who may be younger & quicker-studies.
Wink Okay?

P.S. it's OK by me for the moderator to delete this entire thread, since at times, some of the vents are pretty embarrassing all around, as i'm sure y'all agree?
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Dec 19, 2013, 10:56
Post: #50
RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
Well, I precisely obeyed every step of the below YouTube Tutorials.

Absolutely, 100% step by step, over the course of an hour,
I kept shifting between the Play-Pause-Buttons on YouTube
...and my Gimp interface, Tiny increments at a time.


The first video (with the Red Words) is the best instructor.
He's the only one of Myriads who truly knows how to teach!
But because my pic had white parts in it, it did not work.
(sorta like what happened with my celery)
I.E. His Red Words did not contain "white stuff" like my pic.

As for the below Pink Flamingo video:
When I reached the Black/White paintbrushing instructions in the Pink Flamingo Video, nothing happened
(Even though I dragged the paintbrush inside my pic, it didn't paint my Pic. Neither black, nor white.

Here's the vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W2vIXP36lI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2PftcbJ4oQ
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Dec 19, 2013, 11:35 (This post was last modified: Dec 19, 2013 11:36 by iForStyle007.)
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RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
(Dec 19, 2013 10:56)Judy Wrote:  ...first video (with the Red Words) is the best instructor.
...But because my pic had white parts in it, it did not work.
(sorta like what happened with my celery)
I.E. His Red Words did not contain "white stuff" like my pic.
.
Very good!
Ok, i see where your getting stuck at (adding /removing to the selection)

He didn't say it but see this part of the vid, linked below, when he "shift + (left clicks) with the fuzzy selec tool, he's adding the "white" bits before he right-clicks "add alpha channel.
http://youtu.be/9W2vIXP36lI?t=4m25s

*Now you have a few options on getting rid of the white bits on your celery.
A:
Use the Eraser eraser tool, since the layer has an alpha channel already by now, when you erase any part of it, BAM! its transparent. (Ctrl + z / "Edit > Undo" ) if you messup.

B: before you add the alpha channel, you can add / subtract the selection.
With Freeselect freeselect / Lasso, or Ellipseselect Rectselect
Detailed in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G1nLPZy0n4
,
,
C (optional clean up) :
For small bits on edges, you can try:
"Edit > Select > Shrink..."

Quote:As for the below Pink Flamingo video:
When I reached the Black/White paintbrushing instructions in the Pink Flamingo Video, nothing happened
(Even though I dragged the paintbrush inside my pic, it didn't paint my Pic. Neither black, nor white.

Hm. Check the brushes that its not on "Clipboard" set ti to a brush, then try again.
On the pink flamingo video, the "Brush:" section on the left hand side.

Try re-watching the video in a larger video size (on the controls next to [CC]* [_] Rectselect, click the "[_]"(larger size) or try to watch it fullscreen mode.

I'm just checking in for a bit, I'll be back later today. I'll get back to your PM's though, good luck!
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Dec 20, 2013, 01:37
Post: #52
RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
Whoa - insofar as the Red-Letter guy video,
in my case (with my own pic)
...I was unable to Shift-Click the "white area"

because in my case, fuzzyTool caused what looked like a geographical map.

Meaning - ants running every which way, with NO SET "inside" area
...and NO SET "outside" area

To sum it up in Of-Nutshell, indeed these theories can't be "stuffed" into the reality.

Re: the pink flamingo, in my case, my picture is approx. 98 percent whitish-greyish. Quite unlike a flamingo. Maybe that's why it didn't work.

This would be a pretty fair example of my pic coloring:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YVWAI1ucCMc/S8...2az1o1.jpg

I had also seen the below automobile video - and may try figuring it out even though it was way less clear than the Red-Letter & Flamingo instructors. I may try it because the intelligent scissors might offer a way out.

What I wish, is that the Red-Letter guy (or even the Flamingo guy) would demo via their instruction-style exactly what the below Auto-guy is doing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw9zbeHEXY8

ironic, that the less clear they are, the more popular they are to everyone except me. Since the red-letters was to me more clear than Flamingo. And the Flamingo was to me more clear than Automobile
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Dec 20, 2013, 04:56 (This post was last modified: Dec 20, 2013 04:57 by iForStyle007.)
Post: #53
RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
(Dec 20, 2013 01:37)Judy Wrote:  Whoa - insofar as the Red-Letter guy video,
in my case (with my own pic)
...I was unable to Shift-Click the "white area"

because in my case, fuzzyTool caused what looked like a geographical map.
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See my last post, where I talked about "A" "B"+ video detailed & "C" options to for getting rid of(cleaning) your white spaces

You need manual selection
Making a manual selection on your object/celery is what you need.
Fuzzy select is a somewhat advanced tool and can do more harm than good if your really new to Gimp/Photo Edits
.
I recently made a tutorial also demonstrating the Freeselect freeselect / lasso tool and 2 ways to use it.
after you select your celery go to "Select > Invert" then delete the background.
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so after your done reading this whole post head on down there and check it out! Smile
Part of My Tutorial: http://youtu.be/4KHuu8wZZds?t=38s

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Quote:What I wish, is that the Red-Letter guy (or even the Flamingo guy) would demo via their instruction-style exactly what the below Auto-guy is doing:...
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ironic, that the less clear they are, the more popular they are to everyone except me. Since the red-letters was to me more clear than Flamingo. And the Flamingo was to me more clear than Automobile
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So did the Auto-guy have a simpler / more understandable tutorial or were you still a bit confused?
.
Just don't mix up concepts with familiarity .
Even if they're more familiar to you, some of their concepts still can get you lost if you don't do your research on what is what, and where it is.
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Dec 23, 2013, 00:44
Post: #54
RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
I did not grasp what the tree and Red-Square bucketfill had to do with the mostly-white spectacles which I linked to in post #66 above, as a close example of my situation.

Regarding the automobile tutorial, in answer to your Q:

No - the automobile tutorial was the least clear to me
....of all three Mask-Crop videos.

What I wanted, was that David Ludlow (author of Red Letters) should
present the automobile scissor-snipping tutorial
using the Ludlow-style of teaching.

That is what I had been referring to above. I also wouldn't mind if either Ludlow or else flamingo's tutor4u would present a tutorial showing how they would go about cropping the above near-colorless spectacles.

Because Ludlow and (sorta) tutor4u were the teachers whom I personally was best able to understand.

I guess I'll now wrap up this Child Tutorial thread Sleepy
Thanks again for all your efforts Shy
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Dec 24, 2013, 08:21
Post: #55
RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
"I guess I'll now wrap up this Child Tutorial thread Sleepy
Thanks again for all your efforts Shy
"

I shall help you wrap it up more than...we have 1 small detail to clear up so I'll be wrapping up my help to you with this.
*see below
(Dec 23, 2013 00:44)Judy Wrote:  I did not grasp what the tree and Red-Square bucketfill had to do with the mostly-white spectacles which I linked to in post #66 above, as a close example of my situation.


I linked to the part about the free select tool.

In your case, ignore the tree or red square, its how you select your objects.

http://youtu.be/4KHuu8wZZds?t=38s

To get rid of those white specs
you need to MANUALLY make a selection around your object using (Freeselect) free select.

*By either drawing or clicking points as seen in my video.

Notice where I draw the selection(make a small circle) before I did the rectangle select.

After either selection push enter or click your first point again to complete it.

You can use the eraser tool(Eraser) to clean it up if you click point a selection instead with the free select tool(Freeselect).

That is all, have a great vacation Smile
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Dec 24, 2013, 10:04
Post: #56
RE: Any child-level tutorial - to accomplish this?
Thanks Cool
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